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Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby terrier22 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:52 pm

Way too early, but currently Wofford is listed in Joe Lunardi's respected
bracketology blog as a #12 playing #5 Butler in the West Regional (showing
Gonzaga as the #1.)

I know it's just fun for us fans to day dream about, but they could do a lot worse....
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby woffordgrad94 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:58 pm

Butler, another mid major, would be a good draw. I'm not saying it would be at all easy, (Butler is in the Top 25), but I think we'd have a chance at an upset.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:40 pm

Early, and premature, indeed, but I'd take a #12 seed. Almost every year one or more #12's get a win and I'd love for Wofford to have its turn at that.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby woffordgrad94 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:02 pm

There are five 11 seeds and five 12 seeds. If we got an 11 or 12 there's a chance we would be selected to play in the First Four in Dayton against another 11 or 12. Would you rather play in one of these play-in games or would you rather play a 5 or 6 seed right away? My thinking is like this- I'm all for winning an NCAA tourney game, and playing an 11 or 12 seed most likely gives us a better shot to do so than playing a 5 or 6 seed. So I would welcome going to Dayton. Yes, it means an extra game, but as big a Wofford fan as I am, I realize it is improbable that we could make a deep run al a Butler regardless, so whatever advantage we can get towards winning that first ever tourney game in school history would be welcomed. Plus, we would be playing at a time no one else was during the First Four and more people in the USA would watch Wofford basketball. The only way I would be opposed to the First Four is if we had to play Dayton on their floor there...but I wonder if Dayton could even be placed in the First Four since I don't think home court NCAA Tourney games are allowed.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby Terrier13 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:57 pm

Another thing to consider is that a win in the First Four and advancing to an additional game on Thursday or Friday would give the SoCon two shares of NCAA Tourney money which would definitely be a boon for the conference (that win would be good for an additional $1.6 million to the conference over six years, and the win counts the same whether it's in the First Four or in the traditional Thursday/Friday game). Here's a short interesting read for those who would like to find out more: http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2014/03/20/how-a-single-ncaa-tournament-win-is-worth-1-6-million/
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby Eyes of Old Main on Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:26 pm

Can conference champions be placed into the First Four? I thought that was basically set aside for the last few at-large slots.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby woffordgrad94 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:16 pm

Eyes of Old Main wrote:Can conference champions be placed into the First Four? I thought that was basically set aside for the last few at-large slots.

I hadn't thought of this. I think you might be right when it comes to the 11 and 12 seeds; these teams are the "last four in". I think I've heard that before. I'm pretty sure conference champs with the lowest RPIs can be put in there as 16 seeds though. So I guess we aren't going to Dayton if this is indeed correct.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby Eyes of Old Main on Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:14 pm

There are 6 #16 seeds. Four of them play in two first round games, the other two get automatic dates with #1 seeds. The other two first round games are a #11 vs. #11 and a #12 vs. #12. The #16's will be mid-major conference champions, the #11's and #12's should be at-large's.

By virtue of our RPI, I don't see a SoCon champion Wofford team being a #16 seed unless we lose out from here and then catch fire in the conference tournament. Even if our RPI continues to slowly decline due to strength if schedule, I think we'd be no worse than a #14 or #15, especially with the NC State win and also wins over Iona (a conference leader) and Sam Houston State (strong in their conference).

ESPN has us as a #12 in Jacksonville against Maryland, CBS has us as a #12 in Jacksonville against Arkansas. Charlotte would be a better destination, but they only have one slot in our range, a #14. Jacksonville seems more likely since they will have a regular #12, two #13's and a #12/#12 game winner. I'd rather have Jacksonville because it's no too far for our fans and it's seeding slots are better. Of course this is all moot if the Terriers don't take care of business.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby woffordgrad94 on Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:04 pm

If we weren't a 16 seed last year, when I though for sure we'd be a 16 in a play-in game, then I seriously doubt we'll be a 16 this year when we already have more wins than last year and a much better RPI. And also those three quality wins Eyes mentioned should factor favorably in our seeding too. As Eyes said, this is all IF we get in at all, which is certainly not a given. I am not just assuming we're getting in, I am just having fun thinking about it.

And speaking of Arkansas, I just watch them put up 101 points in a road win at Auburn and they are second to Kentucky in the SEC. They would be a very tough draw for us.
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Re: Lunardi's ESPN bracketology

Postby Eyes of Old Main on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:02 am

Oh, I'm not taking it for granted either. Wofford needs to close out the regular season with no more than one more loss and then they need to win the SoCon tournament. That will be no easy task. If, and only if, that all takes place, then this becomes a true discussion.

As for matchups, I would always favor a pairing with a team that isn't an athletic, run for 40 minutes team. In many ways that's why the Wisconsin matchup in 2010 was perfect. Michigan was tough last year for the opposite reason.
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