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Postby terriers on Sat May 19, 2007 10:08 pm

I think, to disregard Tim Wallace because he has no Div 1 experience
would be insane. But RJ did not say that. He said,"We hope to find
someone with Div 1 experience who has worked with institutions
with high academic standards but we are not limiting our search."

Tim Wallace is a Wofford graduate whose wife is employed on the
Wofford administrative staff. He has been the head coach at SMC
for 16 years and has attained legendary status there. He is a family
man of high integrity. I can't imagine any coach having a better
knowledge of what is required of a Wofford athlete. We are blessed
to have an alumnus of his status right here in Spartanburg and
would be lucky to get him.
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Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sat May 19, 2007 10:27 pm

I wasn't saying don't pursue him at all. I just thought he might be off the tabel based on what I remembered from that press release. I would hope we'd go to him first since he's an alum, already lives in town and his wife already works at Wofford.

If he doesn't come to Wofford, who would be other candidates?
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Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sat May 19, 2007 10:29 pm

terriers wrote:...has worked with institutions with high academic standards"


I hope that high academic standards aren't a requirement for all candidates because SMC would definately NOT fit that bill.
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Postby terriers on Sat May 19, 2007 11:01 pm

Granted, SMC is not a model academic institution but TW's wife is
an Associate Dean of Students at Wofford and, having graduated
hinself, I'm sure Tim is well familiar with the school's standards
and entrance requirements.

I rest my case. I'm sure there will be considerable interest in this
job but have no idea who the other candidates might be.
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Postby dungeonjoe on Sun May 20, 2007 6:01 am

Eyes of Old Main wrote:
terriers wrote:...has worked with institutions with high academic standards"


I hope that high academic standards aren't a requirement for all candidates because SMC would definately NOT fit that bill.


Hold on, let's not let our bias get the best of us. Comparing Wofford and SMC is like comparing apples to oranges; they each serve different constituencies, SMC lives out their mission for a 2 year model rather than a four year one. From my experience, SMC does have high standards but certainly different than Wofford.
Wallace has done very well in that environment, I would compare what he has done for SMC with what Ayers has done for Wofford.
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Postby terriers on Sun May 20, 2007 12:46 pm

Thanks dungeonjoe. I wasn't that familiar with SMC but your
comments should eliminate any doubt whatsoever.

I, personally, feel we would be fortunate to get Tim Wallace, What
more could we want than to have an alimnus of his calibre right in
our own backyard. If Tim doesn't know what constitutes the "Wofford
Type", I don't know what coach would know.
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Postby BossTerrier on Sun May 20, 2007 1:14 pm

terriers wrote:Thanks dungeonjoe. I wasn't that familiar with SMC but your
comments should eliminate any doubt whatsoever.

I, personally, feel we would be fortunate to get Tim Wallace, What
more could we want than to have an alimnus of his calibre right in
our own backyard. If Tim doesn't know what constitutes the "Wofford
Type", I don't know what coach would know.


What,other than being a Wofford Alum with contacts to the college, makes this guy a spectacular candidate? Traylor is a nice guy with a great career W-L record and experience coaching...and he couldn't get it done. Unfortunately,nice guys finish last in the SoCon. We need someone who understands the academic and financial restrictions...but wants to win. We need a young up and coming assistant with no complacency .for the
"wofford way"...
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Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sun May 20, 2007 1:34 pm

I'm sure SMC does a good job within its academic niche just like Wofford does in its niche, but let's not fall all over ourselves defending them either. If people here are going to take a holier than thou approach to Georgia Southern, Appalachian State and Coastal Carolina then I think it isn't quite right to give SMC a free pass.

Apples/Oranges or not, the fact is that SMC is what it is (and without specifics to back myself up, I am sure that its a whole lot less than GSU, ASU or CCU).

That being said, so long as Wallace's players at SMC exhibited acceptable academic progress, then it is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. I feel certain that anyone who graduated from Wofford would understand the differences and adjustments that would need to be made.
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Postby dungeonjoe on Sun May 20, 2007 1:43 pm

Eyes of Old Main wrote:I'm sure SMC does a good job within its academic niche just like Wofford does in its niche, but let's not fall all over ourselves defending them either.
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and let's not fall all over ourselves beating them up either.
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Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sun May 20, 2007 2:58 pm

dungeonjoe wrote:and let's not fall all over ourselves beating them up either.


I agree and that's fine. I made one comment about it and that's all I have to say.

I just think it's ironic that people tend to defend SMC and blast GSU and ASU as reasons Wofford shouldn't be in the SoCon and CCU as unworthy of admission to the SoCon becasue of their academics.
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Postby terriers on Sun May 20, 2007 3:58 pm

One more comment on Tim Wallace and I'm otta here for a week
to Atlanta to watch the Braves.

Someone said we don't need a nice guy like Traylor but rather a guy
who wants to win. Tim's 16 year record at SMC is 610 wins and 192
losses.

It was also said that we don't need to get caught up in recruiting the
"Wofford Type" emphasizing academics. Well, let's just go to Fresno
State and hire one of their coaches. They recruit ex-cons.

Bonvoyage!
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Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sun May 20, 2007 4:41 pm

terriers wrote:...I'm outta here for a week to Atlanta to watch the Braves.


Have fun and help get them out of this slump they've been in recently. Can't afford to get too far behind the Mets.
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Postby woco on Sun May 20, 2007 5:54 pm

Let's face it d-1 experience hasn't gotten it done. Wallace brings everything Wofford needs right now in a baseball coach...drive to win and the baseball mind to get in done. Not to mention his built in loyalty to see Wofford win. I had the opportunity to hear him speak before--he would represent Wofford well. He'd get after it and make a difference real quick.
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Postby BossTerrier on Sun May 20, 2007 7:13 pm

terriers wrote:One more comment on Tim Wallace and I'm otta here for a week
to Atlanta to watch the Braves.

Someone said we don't need a nice guy like Traylor but rather a guy
who wants to win. Tim's 16 year record at SMC is 610 wins and 192
losses.

It was also said that we don't need to get caught up in recruiting the
"Wofford Type" emphasizing academics. Well, let's just go to Fresno
State and hire one of their coaches. They recruit ex-cons.

Bonvoyage!


I think you took my comments to an extreme-I simply wanted to know stats that demonstrated why you have so much faith in Wallace. Once you shared that info, his record speaks volumes..almost to the point where he may not want to take on a challenge like this if he has a comfortable spot.
As for discouraging academics...i don't think I indicated that. i said we need someone who understands that component of our school, but who also wants to win and doesn't use the academic restriction as a crutch.

i don't know anything about wallace other than what i have heard here. Sounds worthy of pursuing. I did not advocate abandoning our Wofford Way either, i just thought an up and comer with something to prove would be welcome.
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Postby dungeonjoe on Sun May 20, 2007 8:20 pm

Eyes of Old Main wrote:
dungeonjoe wrote:and let's not fall all over ourselves beating them up either.


I agree and that's fine. I made one comment about it and that's all I have to say.

I just think it's ironic that people tend to defend SMC and blast GSU and ASU as reasons Wofford shouldn't be in the SoCon and CCU as unworthy of admission to the SoCon becasue of their academics.

1. not me... I don't blast anyone for academics and I don't think Wofford is that pure either... afterall, they admitted me!
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