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Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:40 am
by Loyal-T-dog
"We're going to need the Catamount Nation in full force in Spartanburg Saturday because it's going to take all of us. We need to paint that stadium purple."
- Mark Speir

C'mon Terrier Fans! Tell all your tailgating family to get in the stadium early and be loud because after talking to several friends from WCU they aren't worried about us and expect a win.
We haven't been dominating on defense or consistent on offense yet this season but Mike Ayers will have them ready for what I think is the biggest game for us in quite some time.

Go Terriers!!!!!!!! Paint Gibbs Old Gold & Black!

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:19 pm
by woffordgrad94
Well as far as painting goes, I highly doubt WCU will match what Georgia Southern did to our stadium in the playoffs circa 2011.

I can understand that point of view by WCU fans though. WE haven’t looked especially great so far...we have looked beatable for good teams with good passing attacks (as WCU is). I just hope the coaches have been purposely conservative a lot and we have something in us that we’ve been holding in reserve so far to bring out Saturday. We will have to play our best game of the year by a sizable margin to win. Getting Roo Daniels back should help some.

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:58 pm
by Retiredterrier
Game notes. Redwood is the only injury according to the notes. What about Roo ? 2 deep shows Jeresaty starting. Interesting note from the info on the WCU - Chatt game : WCU scored three TDs - yes 3 TDs - on D by recovering fumbles for the score and/or running them in for the score. Also they had what sounded like a lot of sacks and pressure on Chatt QB. So it will be a big challenge on our O and of course on our D because their O is very explosive with lots of good players.

http://athletics.wofford.edu/documents/ ... tes_17.pdf

Media lunch for WCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfIIHZFHJxY

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:55 pm
by youngterrier
I'm skeptical of Western's ability to pack their own stadium, let alone pack ours

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:59 pm
by Loyal-T-dog
I just want Wofford fans to show up and get behind a team that knows they are not there yet but are working their tails off to get there.
This team can be great!

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:12 pm
by 19TERRIER19
I have read and have seen a ton of folks jumping on the western hype train. PERFECT!!!! This brings us back to the old UnderDog role......lots of people picking Western as the trendy pick to win. I love it. We relish this role. This is a Tremendous opportunity to solidify our place in this conference. We have been through the wars. We have endured hardships, and we are built to withstand and handle anything thrown our way. We went into Western and beat them at their place the last time we saw them and I don’t expect that to change at our place. I hope most people continue the building up of western and the subsequent doubting of our team. I’ll take
My TDOGS in this environment every time. When has Western played for high stakes over the last few seasons???? Are they prepared for championship crunch time when every move could be the ball game??? I’d venture to say not......

A win against Sammy is one thing...coming into Gibbs looking for a win is something different. Let’s get to work boys!!!!!

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:49 pm
by WocoSix
Have to say I saw some subtle changes in our Defensive approach the last game. Hopefully this carries over to WCU. The offense has to get back the early season swagger where we didn't mind putting it up 12-15 per game. RJ and Hill have proven they have the hands. And with the addition of the bigger possession WR and TE position I don't think we have played all of our cards. I like the change of pace with Newman at QB, but at times it seems forced or predetermined. Let the flow of the game dictate his usage. Defensively I thought I saw personel packages for passing downs, disguising of coverages pre snap, mixing of coverages beside predictable cover 2, and some press man. Our Defense is mature and should be able to handle more complex play calling. WCU and the next few opponents have some pretty good QB's. We are going to have to confuse them and force turnovers and sacks. Blitzes seemed to confuse the WCU QB and he tends to run rather go through read progressions (Happy Feet)

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:15 pm
by 19TERRIER19
I LOVE HOW THIS GAME IS PLAYING OUT!!!! All the Western fans are out in full force talking big talk...they expect a blowout......This is the very type of game we eat up.....This is where coaching and experience separate the contenders from the pretenders....

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:24 pm
by The Cats
-"I'm skeptical of Western's ability to pack their own stadium, let alone pack ours"
I'm not here to talk smack, but the Cats have done pretty well in attendance this season in Cullowhee, 11,763 - Davidson game & 12,018 for Samford -that's not bad for a 13k stadium. We'll bring a few to Spartanburg, but certainly, won't pack the stadium.

-"All the Western fans are out in full force talking big talk...they expect a blowout."
What big talk is that? Expect a blowout, you've got to be kidding. Read either board, you won't find this. However, you will find a fan base that is now confident in the ability of this team, offensively and defensively. If that plays into your hands..... so be it. The game will be won on the field, not on either of these message boards.

Good Luck to the Terriers the remainder of the season.

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:33 pm
by youngterrier
I saw a pretty empty student section on the ESPN3 speed. Announced attendance is never the actual attendance.

If you go to this video and pause it right about 40-41 seconds you see a nice shot of the stands WCU side of the field. It's a nice showing, better than what we have here at Woco but nowhere near full capacity on the home side. At around 53 seconds you see the away side and it's worse, which is understandable because it's Samford.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6MVS5bud4

Basically, if I can see the color of the seats, it's not a great showing. I'm not throwing stones at glass houses (I won't be able to come to the game saturday) just pointing out that a crowd of App State, GSU or the Citadel is more likely to happen than Western

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:24 pm
by youngterrier
Here's an obscure stat that may be useful:

Through 5 games, Western has held the ball 66 times (excluding possessions before the half/end of game). If you count missed Field goals, they put their team in position to score or scored in about 1/2 of those possessions (32). That stat is impressive, especially when you recognize that the backups probably got a lot of playing time against chattanooga and Davidson (maybe GW too). Basically, they are averaging about 13 possessions a game and scoring on 5 or 6 of them (call it 6 or 7 because of the backups). That's scoring roughly 50% of the time you touch it.

Our numbers are similar, at least proportionately. We have possessed the ball 40 times (excluding possessions before the half/end of game). We have scored on 18 possessions. Roughly half (47%) of our possessions we've scored.

The distinction here is pretty minute. One could argue that the reason they've scored so much proportionate to their possessions is the quality of the opponent conflated with the style of play by the opponent. For instance, Gardner Webb is probably the only opponent they've played thus far that weren't really really bad (Chatt, Davidson) or played an air raid offense that would either score fast or go three and out relatively quickly (Hawaii and Samford) giving them more opportunities to get on the field. Gardner Webb faltered in the end, but their style of play limited Western to a season low in terms of possessions. I know they're 0-4 right now and thus arguably "really bad" but I think there's a case that they're improving and better than Davidson and even Chatt right now. That's a thread for another time.

Meanwhile, Wofford is averaging 10 possessions a game and has so far turned the ball over less than Western's opponents (and Western). We can't afford a game like we had against Mercer in which we left the field without points 1/3 of the time (4 of 12 possessions we scored); that's how samford smacked the Citadel, that's how Western will smack us if we do.

You're statistically more likely to keep this game winnable if you 1) hold Western to their season average of scores per possession and 2) Keep them at a season-low total possessions. If they only hold the ball 10 times, and we keep them a notch below their average (say 40%), that's anywhere from 12 to 28 points (more likely 20-28 IMO). That's a winnable ball game, even with our so-so offense)

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:45 pm
by boulder3m
Nice work YT. I will add to that if we can create those long 6-9 minute possessions that end in TD's it will play to our advantage. If they don't have the ball it is much less likely for them to score on us.

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:34 pm
by 19TERRIER19
I love the cats being out in full force. Makes what’s coming even better.

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:59 am
by The Cats
-"I love the cats being out in full force. Makes what’s coming even better."

There was nothing said about the Cats being out in "full force" . You guys continue to try and make something out of nothing, yeah Speir requested Catamount fans to attend the game, what head coach wouldn't?

How do I know full force was not used.... you can see for yourself...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk9NtwFN_6s

Re: Western Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:23 am
by Atldog7
Pretty sure I have never seen Ayers do a PSA quite like that