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Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:21 am
by 19TERRIER19
PER TODD SHANESY!!!!!!!

Evan with a torn ACL Out for the season

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:36 am
by T-Dog 4
Ugh. I feel badly for him and for the team. Need some guys to step in leadership roles and rally the troops after a loss like this.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:41 am
by Ruckus
I am just so thankful we did not do him a disservice by going full contact on Saturday. Now THAT would have been a real shame.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:21 am
by WTFan
Hate it for him. Not just for the injury, ending his career, but also for last season's fiasco. Both should/could have been avoided IMHO. Can't begin to express my displeasure about the circumstances surrounding the injury. Since what I want to say would clearly be deemed offensive by some I will refrain from further comment on the subject. Wish him all the best on a speedy recovery and on what I am sure will be a very bright future.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:28 am
by Loyal-T-dog
Great kid and football will not define his bright future.
Now it's time for the Wofford faithful to get 100% behind whichever QB takes the helm and stay positive for our Terriers,
What is gone is gone and this team CAN win the SOCON so let's begin a new thread....
Good luck Evan!

Go Terriers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:40 am
by walliver
Loyal-T-dog wrote:Great kid and football will not define his bright future.
Now it's time for the Wofford faithful to get 100% behind whichever QB takes the helm and stay positive for our Terriers,
What is gone is gone and this team CAN win the SOCON so let's begin a new thread....
Good luck Evan!

Go Terriers!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hopefully, Jacks will have no long-term repercussions from this injury. It is a shame he worked through Spring Camp and came back for a 5th year just for this to happen.

I'm sure the Wofford faithful will get behind our new QB, but, we really need for the coaching staff to do the same. Rotating RB's and WR's at will can be effective. Changing out QB's frequently doesn't. Pulling a QB after a single mistake does nothing for his confidence and destroys any team rhythm. I can accept a two-man rotation, it worked well in 2002 and 2003, but each QB needs to have the opportunity to perform.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:02 am
by Loyal-T-dog
"Rotating RB's and WR's at will can be effective. Changing out QB's frequently doesn't. Pulling a QB after a single mistake does nothing for his confidence and destroys any team rhythm. I can accept a two-man rotation, it worked well in 2002 and 2003, but each QB needs to have the opportunity to perform" - Walliver

Agree totally!

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:32 pm
by youngterrier
I really hate it for Evan.

I think whenever new players, regardless of position, come into the team the fans think they're the next best thing. Usually, it's just a cognitive bias of some sort, because it happens every year with every fan base in college sports.

But with Evan, I actually do think we've missed an opportunity at quarterback. It's true that he's made mistakes while he's been in there but it's been, quite frankly, years since we gave a QB the benefit of the doubt to make mistakes in game situation and grow out of it. Evan has/had a quickness about him that made him a competitor. He's fun to watch, even if he made mistakes.

If you look at any of the QBs pre-2012, there's always been a steady improvement from season to season. Certainly each QB (Allen, Collier, Widmyer) has taken their fair share of criticism but at the end of the day we were winning, and they got better each season. Since 2012, has that been a thing? we're not winning, we're not consistent and we seem to make stupid decisions. I'm really hard pressed to say it's the player's fault. We're just as talented as we've always been. And this is why it's so frustrating to watch the team because I can't help but think it comes down to coaching. Is it a fundamentals issue? Is it a strategy issue? I'm not sure, but I don't feel like we've had a strategy in a long time.

I know some people are saying that this sort of contact on QBs happens in camp, but I don't remember something like this happening to a quarterback in a while. Maybe it's a freak accident and a coincidence and we're all just overreacting because the team hasn't played at the level we've come to expect in the last couple seasons, and it's just intuitive to blame the coaches. Maybe they've actually lost a little bit of the "it" (it happens to everybody over a certain period of time). All I'm saying is that the only thing that's been consistent in the last few seasons has been, at best, inconsistency and underperformance and that's part of this concern. It's there, like it or not.

I'll admit I haven't posted on here a lot lately, so I don't want to come off as a negative troll, but it really is frustrating to see this sort of stuff happen. In aggregate, we've not been as good as we could have been the last few years and it's frustrating. I used to look forward to football season at Wofford, and not just because I was a kid or a student, but the last 3 years of football have been the most forgettable since I've started watching football, and that's depressing. I'm still going to come to games this year and I'm going to stay optimistic and believe that "we can do it" but the mistakes that put us in the position to panic over something like that (regardless of your opinion of whether or not this injury was preventable) in itself is a pretty bad place for us as a program.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:53 pm
by Ruckus
+1
I think we missed a huge opportunity with Evan over his career.
I also think this issue is emblematic of a larger overall problem.
I'll be my seats but not expecting much. We have allowed a huge arrow be removed from our offensive quiver.
Hope I am wrong.
To hear that we had quick whistles today makes me want to puke....or punch something.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:28 pm
by Terrier NH Dude
Big stretch scenario: could EJ receive a medical waiver and play in 2017? Granted, this assumes that he wants to return and compete for the #1 slot. Does not sound likely; yet, suspect some of us are curious.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:02 pm
by boulder3m
YT and Ruckus- Well written and very thoughtful. For several years I have felt EJ was under appreciated and poorly used. I was thrilled when Coach Ayers named him "the man" a few weeks ago. I appreciate his efforts for Wofford and expect for him great success in life. Like you I am completely deflated for a number of reasons. I, too, will be in my seats. I hope the team will rally. We need leadership from the team to do so.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:50 pm
by 19TERRIER19
Let this be the death Nell of negative energy. We all see what's happened. We all love EJ. He is more than a football player and will be great in life. Let's move in a positive manner and if you're not ready it's your fault. We are stacked and have talent that is across the board. We will be a contender in the conference and will be a likely entrant into the playoffs. Get off the old ___ish and get with the new. It's time to rally behind the kids that are ready to rock the jersey proud and will lead us to something Special.

#SOCONCHAMPS

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:44 am
by lawdog
+1.

Show me someone who has done something worthwhile, and I'll show you someone who has overcome adversity. Lou Holtz

One thing about championship teams is that they're resilient. No matter what is thrown at them, no matter how deep the hole, they find a way to bounce back and overcome adversity. Nick Saban

Let me embrace thee, sour adversity, for wise men say it is the wisest course. William Shakespeare

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:45 am
by drpnut
19 I agree. Good post.

When all this happened I was as upset as anyone. And all of us bring upset shows that we are not apathetic when it comes to WoCo. Now that's funnel our energy into what can be.

QB-- just my thinking here: if the freshmen is a true stud as we believe he is, and if he has that "it" factor maybe the coaches need to give him a shot at earning starting spot. I know it is late, but maybe that would be another option.

Re: Jacks injured

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:59 am
by lawdog
I agree pnut. Also, as deep as we are at RB and OL, should we integrate some wildcat, like Baylor did so successfully in their bowl game when they lost their star QB on short notice?