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Re: 11th game?

Postby woffordgrad94 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:53 pm

Davidson is FCS non-scholaship. I actually think Union is an NAIA school- we have played them in basketball before, and I think I remember hearing that then. Plus, Union is in NAIA Georgetown's conference.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby Art Vandalay on Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:31 pm

woffordgrad94 wrote:Davidson is FCS non-scholaship. I actually think Union is an NAIA school- we have played them in basketball before, and I think I remember hearing that then. Plus, Union is in NAIA Georgetown's conference.


94, You are correct that Union College (KY) is NAIA. I Googled Union College (NY) originally and made my post from the information I got there. Now the NY college proclaims to be D3 in football and references the web site http://www.d3football.com. I don't know if that's different from Davidson or not. The only thing I know for sure about Davidson is, if they want to be in the SoCon, they need to play SoCon football.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby woffordgrad94 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:42 pm

I agree about Davidson football. Since they have a football team, they need to compete in this conference.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby Eyes of Old Main on Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:17 pm

They were kicked out of the conference once for not playing a conference slate in football. I'm not sure why they let them back in a few years later. If Wofford makes the sacrifices needed to compete in all sports, then Davidson should too.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby wocogoose94 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:56 pm

So I guess fans can count on Wofford playing a non-Division 1-AA team just about every year now. Maybe even throw in a high school team every now and then. This game serves absolutely zero purpose. The crowd will be terrible and it might end up costing Wofford money as I'm sure they will have to this school something. It also doesnt count in the wins towards a playoff berth.

The only way this game is even remotely acceptable is if Wofford plays a 12th game.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby Oak Grove on Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:56 pm

The last time we took the field, we couldn't have beaten a high-school team, much less an NAIA team. Anyone who was at Furman last November can bear witness to that.

I just want to see us playing well again. Until we do, though, after a 3-8 season, I'll gladly take a win over Union College.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby northend on Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:26 pm

playing weaker teams will not help with an at large selection come playoff time !!!
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Re: 11th game?

Postby Ruckus on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:11 pm

We're underestimated and disrespected by the committtee no matter who we play, so it really doesn't matter.
After last season, an apparent easy win (if there is such a thing) should be a welcome respite.
OG, the statute of limitations on the FU debacle hasn't run yet.......just had a horrible flashback when I read your post. Post traumatic stress disorder; battle fatigue.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby crabbyterrier on Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:32 am

Ruckus wrote:We're underestimated and disrespected by the committtee no matter who we play, so it really doesn't matter.
After last season, an apparent easy win (if there is such a thing) should be a welcome respite.
OG, the statute of limitations on the FU debacle hasn't run yet.......just had a horrible flashback when I read your post. Post traumatic stress disorder; battle fatigue.



agreed about fu game.

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Re: 11th game?

Postby Eyes of Old Main on Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:57 am

Ruckus wrote:We're underestimated and disrespected by the committtee no matter who we play, so it really doesn't matter.


We are underestimated and disrespected, but so far as the strength of schedule goes, we bring a lot of that on ourselves. We don't play the level of OOC schedule most other SoCon/CAA schools play. We rarely travel to play outside the Carolinas and routinely play the same rotation of Big South teams. We do play SC State from time to time, but aside from them we don't play any other MEAC teams despite their proximity. Some of this might fall on the prospective opponents, but our lack of willingness to step out of our area hurts us more than we admit. It robs our team of experience in different venues, it limits our exposure, it makes us seem like we are ducking quality opponents and the list goes on. I realize it takes money to pack up a football program and take it on the road, but until we follow the lead of Furman, Elon, Georgia Southern and others, then our perception will not change. Maybe as our funding grows, we'll be able to play some teams from the other major FCS conferences. I really hope so. All allegiances aside, the SoCon isn't what it used to be and some great (gasp, even better) football is played elsewhere. There is no coincidence that we've struggled against bigger, more physical CAA teams come playoff time. I love our underdog role as much as anyone, but part of that is not being afraid to face off with anyone, anywhere. I might not know all the details, trials and tribulations, etc. of putting together a football schedule, but based off my perception of what Wofford has scheduled in recent years, I think things could be done better.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby Ruckus on Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:52 am

When we win the SoCon and are still disrespected and sent all over the country, I fail to see how one OOC game changes that. That said, I would love for us to play a better FCS OOC schedule.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby walliver on Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:55 am

Eyes of Old Main wrote:
Ruckus wrote:We're underestimated and disrespected by the committtee no matter who we play, so it really doesn't matter.


We are underestimated and disrespected, but so far as the strength of schedule goes, we bring a lot of that on ourselves. We don't play the level of OOC schedule most other SoCon/CAA schools play. We rarely travel to play outside the Carolinas and routinely play the same rotation of Big South teams. We do play SC State from time to time, but aside from them we don't play any other MEAC teams despite their proximity. Some of this might fall on the prospective opponents, but our lack of willingness to step out of our area hurts us more than we admit. It robs our team of experience in different venues, it limits our exposure, it makes us seem like we are ducking quality opponents and the list goes on. I realize it takes money to pack up a football program and take it on the road, but until we follow the lead of Furman, Elon, Georgia Southern and others, then our perception will not change. Maybe as our funding grows, we'll be able to play some teams from the other major FCS conferences. I really hope so. All allegiances aside, the SoCon isn't what it used to be and some great (gasp, even better) football is played elsewhere. There is no coincidence that we've struggled against bigger, more physical CAA teams come playoff time. I love our underdog role as much as anyone, but part of that is not being afraid to face off with anyone, anywhere. I might not know all the details, trials and tribulations, etc. of putting together a football schedule, but based off my perception of what Wofford has scheduled in recent years, I think things could be done better.


I have always thought we played a poor OOC schedule. I know it is expernsive to travel to the northeast or southwest to play, but there are a number of FCS teams within bus riding distance we could play other than Charleston Southern, GW or PC. I know we get little respect from "The Committee", but we also need to step up a little. There are teams in the Southern part of the CAA, the eastern part of the OVC, most of the MEAC which would make decent OOC home-and-home opponents.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby OLDMAIN80 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:04 am

BestOfBreed wrote:I wouldn't mind a Home and Home with Jacksonville State. Newly remodeled stadium with 24,000 seats. 4 and a half hour drive from Spartanburg. Division I FCS member of the OVC. Easiest way to expand the footprint. They have a 2010 schedule set but wouldn't mind seeing them show up in the future.

Georgia State (2010 schedule set), Campbell, North Carolina Central aren't as interesting but are Division I at least.



Would love a Jack State home and home, close enough for me to make a day trip to their home field.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby wocomouth on Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:16 am

Do you guys honestly think Mark Line, the associate athletic director who does the football scheduling, sat around and played games on his computer instead of trying to schedule an 11th football game? He had to schedule a home game and it couldn't be a home and home. Given that, you can throw out all decent I-AAs. He took what he could get.

Do you also know that the reason we don't play William and Mary, Richmond, Jacksonville State, or other quality OOC foes? Our coaching staff doesn't want to play them. If given the choice between Richmond or Charleston Southern, MA will schedule Chraleston Southern 99.9% of the time. Why? Because he believes the Southern Conference is the best football league in the country and our schedule will be hard enough with those 8 games plus the 1 I-A game we have play for the money.

Stop dreaming that we will play a home and home with an Ivy or other far off I-AA team. We don't have the money to do it. From what I hear from a few people that work in the development office at the college, Wofford still needs well in excess of $1 million to complete the fund-raising for the JET, the new weight room and athletic offices facility......and that facility has been in use for over 9 months now.

Our donations to the Terrier Club are great, but they only pay for scholarships.
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Re: 11th game?

Postby fgs44 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:27 am

wocomouth wrote:Do you guys honestly think Mark Line, the associate athletic director who does the football scheduling, sat around and played games on his computer instead of trying to schedule an 11th football game? He had to schedule a home game and it couldn't be a home and home. Given that, you can throw out all decent I-AAs. He took what he could get.

Do you also know that the reason we don't play William and Mary, Richmond, Jacksonville State, or other quality OOC foes? Our coaching staff doesn't want to play them. If given the choice between Richmond or Charleston Southern, MA will schedule Chraleston Southern 99.9% of the time. Why? Because he believes the Southern Conference is the best football league in the country and our schedule will be hard enough with those 8 games plus the 1 I-A game we have play for the money.

Stop dreaming that we will play a home and home with an Ivy or other far off I-AA team. We don't have the money to do it. From what I hear from a few people that work in the development office at the college, Wofford still needs well in excess of $1 million to complete the fund-raising for the JET, the new weight room and athletic offices facility......and that facility has been in use for over 9 months now.

Our donations to the Terrier Club are great, but they only pay for scholarships.

That is right on the money!
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